Friday, February 21, 2014

Cadre Review : Meeting with ITEF in progress

It is learnt that since yesterday, ITEF is continuing dialogues with chairperson and other board members regarding cadre review including allocation of posts. The meeting was inconclusive yesterday and supposed to continue till they arrive at any consensus.

60 comments:

Anonymous said...

मीटिंग पर मीटिंग............. मीटिंग पर मीटिंग.........मीटिंग पर मीटिंग............. means meeting for the sake of meeting without any intention to resolve the issue. ITEF केवल बेवक़ूफ़ बना रही है.........

Anonymous said...

No any meaning of cadre restructure, unless and until the review/revise the seniority of all DR posts since 1986. Subsequently, matter of filling CR post arise.

Anonymous said...

isse achha hai ki regular dpc kiya jaye bina samay gabaye.

Anonymous said...

cadre review ko cancel kro
chairperson or members ki discretinory power kaha gaee. asa lagata hai wo to ek normal ITO se bhee gujre hai ek descision ni lay kssaktai..

Anonymous said...

is there any light at the end of the tunner?

Anonymous said...

Nobody is interested to implement this 8 months old cadre review.

Anonymous said...

I think cadre review is not coming due to only NR Parmar Issue....... What ITEF wants.... ?
When in the Ministry/CSS/AFHQ/CVC/Pres.Secrt./Min. of Railway the seniority is counted by the Vacancy Year.... then what is wrong doing in IT deptt... so all the Members of Deptt.... are requested that pls support it .. ....Not do the late it.... Issey Aaney Do Pls... .....

Anonymous said...

dear union leader plz passed any sufficient order by the concerned authority for regularization of daily wages workers in Income Tax Department, becoz they all are over aged and not able to do work any other places, so please considered their difficulties and take appropriate action in this matter.
your highly cooperation is solicited.

Anonymous said...

Dear DR brothers NR parmar case is not applicable to u. If that is implemented u will lose yr jobs yr posts were not advertised. So relax

Anonymous said...

From start of CR..almost 1kg cashew they have finished in meetings only...

Anonymous said...

Sorry not 1kg....it will be 1 quintal..

Anonymous said...

salute to ITEF Mumbai circle for their stand on ITGOA/JCA and other subject. The other counterpart of ITEF should learn from Mumbai circle

krishna said...

chairperson to out of station , on LTC[ last before retirement on 28.02.14].....meeting kiski sath ho rahi hai????

Anonymous said...

ITEF shall not be ab able to conclude CR. They well always prognosticate because they are not in favor of employees.
AKS

Anonymous said...

Some of our colleagues are hellbent on creating fissures in the name of n r parmar. Do they want to be counted even before they are born. Pl do not allow any divisions

Anonymous said...

All CBDT members should be from IAS since IRS fails miserably in case of administration

Anonymous said...

Even after the allocation where will be promotions. Stalled by our eager DR ITI of 2005 exam with out any fore thought. They are standing to loose only. They are so eager that even forgetting to thank ITEF which increased the posts from 5 to 800 plus. Now blame the association which fought for them even before they were born in the dept. Sad.

Anonymous said...

No dept in central government follow the palmar case decision. U r simply spreading rumours.

Anonymous said...

I agree with ur comnts. IAS officers don't take such long time to reach a decision. IRS stand at the same position today what they were eight months back in the matter of CR.

Anonymous said...

n r parmar judgement implement karna hoga for the benefit of existing n future DRs.

Anonymous said...

First resolve N R Parmar issues then think about CR

Anonymous said...

Is Simple Income Tax running a parallel organisation with ITEF, it seems so.......can you also tell us for the last 5 years, we have been continuously suspending one agitation or another without reaping any benefits to the non-gazetted staff. When something is being asked to the leaders, the straight reply is sometimes we have to call off the agitation. Chairman has changed many a time, but the assurances to the non-gazetted staff is still only in the Charter of Demands. It is high time to create a vibrant leadership at the centre and at all national levels so that the unity and strength of ITEF is kept intact.

Anonymous said...

IT seems that the ITEF leadership is only worried about cadre restructuirng and N R Prmar. What about other issues which can be approved in a day. In many regions only passing an order by the Board is required which is also not seen. What are they doing in the HQrs and MMumbai is only a bigh question.

Anonymous said...

महोदय, क्‍या इस cadre restructuring मे कैजुअल वर्करो को कोई दर्जा नही दिया जायेगा, क़पया करके जो दैनिक वेतन भोगी कर्मचारी आयकर विभाग मे दिसम्‍बर-2008 से पहले के है कम से कम उन्‍हे तो कोर्इ दर्जा दिलवा दीजिए, भारत सरकार तो रोज कोई ना कोई तोहफा दिये जा रही है क्‍या इन बेचारो के बारे मे सोचने वाला कोई नही हैा अतः आई टी ई एफ के पदाधिकारियों से निवेदन है कि क़पया इन बेचारे दैनिक वेतन भोगी कर्मचारियों को भी आयकर विभाग मे कोई दर्जा दिलवाने की क़पा करें

Anonymous said...

respected ITEF leaders i am requested you to see the difficulties and problems of casual Daily Wager Workers in Income Tax Department who have effected of Central Board of Direct Taxes, CBDT, New Delhi order dated 13.05.2013. So kindly considered their difficulties and very humble requested to your honour to kindly give them justice and to take appropriate action at your end for withdraw the order dated 13.05.2013 issued by the CBDT, New Delhi as well as issue the directions to the CBDT, New Delhi for regularization of the above Daily Wages Workers because they have been crossed 28 years of age or they have already been given their golden time to the service of department and presently they cannot able to do work any other places. So please give one time relaxation for regularization of Daily Wages Workers, if it is not possible than give the regular contingency status to all Daily Wages Workers who have been appointed before December, 2008 in Income Tax Department, India.
Hon’ble sir, I am sure and hope that your honour alongwith expectation from your side because many new MTS posts will be created in Cadre Restructuring in the Income Tax Department, India so there is no issue regarding the vacancies.
Azad, Meerut.

Anonymous said...

seniority to be from year of vacancy is pertains to DoPT OM 1959. Since not born in the vacancy year how seniority will be given. hence DoPT issued OM 7-2-1986 and how it is to be implemented was given in 3-7-1986. In both the 1986, seniority should recon from thedate of notification for DRs and date of DPC for promotees has to be effected. So, What is date of notification is question. At this juncute, the Honorable Supreme Court has given a land mark law that identification of vacancy,requisition sent to CBDT and CBDT has sent requisition to SSC/UPSC and in turn the said recruting agency ie SSC/UPSC has to advertise those vacancies notified to them in the public domain. The Supreme court held that when all the above said transactions/incidents are fall in the same year, then seniority should recon from the date of notification as the process of recruitment is attributable to the Govt but not the candidate. That does not mean to say, that all direct recruitment candidates should get seniority from the date of notification. The Supreme court has clearly ruled that in the instant case. Hence, my request is do not take undue advantage and do not mislead the department and do not try to mislead the DoPT. DoPT has clarified by issuing OM dated 3.3.2008. This DoPT OM 3.3.2008 is clearly applicable to those direct recruited candidates who were not fallen in a situation of facts with the NR Permar case.The Honorable Supreme Court in NR permar case has not struck down the DoPT OM 3.3.2008 and it opined that the said OM is not applicable to the facts of the NR permar case. My request is please read the said judgement carefully a word to word and do not pick up a choose you like and read the last para 33 of the said judgement. If read it carefully, you could understand that the advertisement of posts are very much required.That mean vacancies advertised and appointed should be equal. The SSC has not followed this RULE since 2005 till today ie introduction of Combined Graduate Level examination (CGLE). The DoPT has issued guidelines for LEGALLY RECRUITED CANDIDATES but not for others. What is illegal recruitment- Appointed beyond advertised vacancies - What treatment has to be given for those- The Supreme Court has dealt this issue in more than 30 cases. The ITEF, ITGOA, CBDT are kindly requested to bring the true facts to the DoPT and Law ministry about difficulty in implementation in finding of the facts since 1986 and do not try to unsettled the settled position from 1986

K.N.Purushothaman said...

Yes, IAS officers are good administrators with very good comprehensions.The Board badly require them.

Anonymous said...

If the direct recruitment is illegal by SSC since vacancies were not mentioned in Notification, then Promotions made against those vacancies would also be Adhoc as per Para 2.4.4 of DOPT OM of 1986. Respected PRs, don't dig the matter, otherwise it will be harmful to all Promotee Inspectors from 2001. Have patience, what ever decision DOPT and DOLA will take in repsect of N R Parmar order, must be accepted to all.

Anonymous said...

Decision of Apex Court has to implemented. There is no other option. Why Board is delaying. Why ITEF / ITGOA are not demanding early action. There will be no promotion in future without implementing Supreme Court decision.

Anonymous said...

Very good analysis. Hats off to the author.

Anonymous said...

DR friends have only one ponit "implementation of SC ruling in NR Parmar case" with out knowing that it would adversely affect them because the due procedures and time schedules not followed in the selection process like inclusion of newly created vacancies in the earlier year selection process ignoring the fact that some of the candidates might have got overaged on the date of creation of post. If legal provisions are applied strictly, the particular selection procedure is to declared illegal and I leave to the logical conclusion of DR friends the question of what would be fate of those selected under illegal process? One more argument put forth by DR friends is that PRs are occupying the DR vacancies. CBDT itself declared 20+ posts filled through SSC 2005 as surplus even after adjusting all those vacancies arised upto 2008 in DR quota. This clearly shows that some of the DRs have occupied their seats much before it became vacant and enjoyed. So, don't blame PRs for anything and everything.

Anonymous said...

Dear PR,, u better think about ur jobs , sorry job on compassionate ground.

Anonymous said...

As my learned DR pointed out about 2.4.4.para of DoPT OM 3.7.86 . There was no under reporting of vacancies by any state to the CBDT . Burden of liability to the state when there is under reporting of DR vacancies to the Board but not to the SSC/UPSC. If any lapse on reporting to SSC, it will not effect to the respective states since states have no power for reporting to SSC directly. Next. in DPCs promotees will occupy their promotee quota only but not as opined my DR that DR vacancies.If any promotee occupies the DR vacancy and which was not reported to the board in that year he will be called as Ad-hock ypto that end of the year only and after that he will be regularized automatically. Please read All DoPT oms on this issue. My sincere request to all DRs please read all the OMs and other administrative circulars then comment on any issue. Do not put comments on half hearted knowledge.

Anonymous said...

UPA govt. ko ye yad rkhna hoga ki votor to ye daily wages workers bi hai, regularization ka order nai to vote bi nai, akhir har itef ki sari demands man li jati hai only daily wages ko regular krne ki demand hi kyon rah jati hai? so FM sir plz do needfull for daily wages workers.

Anonymous said...

Get ready to go home

Anonymous said...

PR can consent of adhoc promotion but r the intruders DRs ready to go home.

Anonymous said...

It is not rumours... dear .... In AFHQ/CSS/ CVC/Railway Board/Elec . Commission & In Ministry their seniority is counted by the vacancy year.... If a employee qualified the SSC exam 2006 & Join in 2009 their service will be counted. for promotiob by July 2007.... in DR case... then what is wrong done by NR Parmar case ... it should be applicable in all cadre who are DR....

DR Recruitee said...

Now existence of ITEF will depend on implementation of NR Parmar case.

Anonymous said...

First implement NR Parmar case then think about CR.

Anonymous said...

ITEF is a 63 years old organisation which had seen so many turbulence from within n outside in its long history. New DRs dont know its past and they are selfish guys who at any cost want to become ITO in a short term. They are day dreamers.

Anonymous said...

As prr supreme court latest judgement those who make back door entry they will exit back doors only. Poor DRs. Now which god father they will search for

Anonymous said...

Dear DRs forget about C.R if u dream about N.R.P and becoming ITO on that judgement.

Anonymous said...

if PR can think of becoming officer, why not DRs, what wrong in it after all, they come after qualifying SSC(GL), an examination which is in rank just after UPSC. PRs were not barred from qualifying the SSC(GL) even UPSc exam, if they r so desperate for not to follow the Order in vogue

Anonymous said...

Dear CR Sahab,

It is very important for us about the effectiveness of an organization rather than to its long old history. I mean to say here that ITEF is now fully contaminated and in future it will accommodated only gang stars of income tax.

Daily Wager Odisha said...

Dear Comrades,
plz raise the issue, of regularization of 3050 daily wagers working all over India, with the competent authority along with other issues.

Anonymous said...

If the Supreme court order is implemented then poor DR will be removed from their as the requisition sent to SSC were only 5 and SSC selected 810 Dr.ITI. Hence appointment of 805 inspectors joined in 2008 will be null and void ab initio. so pity. just be sincere to your work and dont try to be over smart which u are actually not.

Anonymous said...

ok, but who is the responsible open the back door, when you need open the back door and when the daily wages workers demanding for regularization you have treated them back door entry. this is not fare,
daily wages workers

Anonymous said...

Unadvertised posts n recruitment thereto n further more, the 40 surplus posts recruitment in 2005-06 do not deserve seniority if one carefully reads the order of supreme court dt. 12.2.2014.

ayakar babu, chennai said...

Cadre restructuring will be after LS elections. Reason if now implemented people will get promoted and go to new places. It will be difficult to identify them and handover election duty orders. Is it right? (Everyone tells a reasons, and this is a new reason)

Anonymous said...

From now onwards 2008 batch DR ITI should be called by 'illegally recruited batch' only by the Bloggers.

Anonymous said...

No, modify it to INTRUDER TAX INSPECTOR 567

Anonymous said...

Daily wagers who brought u in the deptt. Department did not press u to work as daily wager nor it had assured you that u will be regularised subsequently. It was mercy of department who engazed you on your choice. So regularization is not your right.

Anonymous said...

Yes 2008 batch DR ITIs are illegal recruitment batch and it should be annulled forthwith.

Anonymous said...

ok and what is your right, u r government employee than u have to right to do anything,

Anonymous said...

just wait and watch and pray for your own, u PRs, u loose all your over confidence

Anonymous said...

The work on this has already begun hv patience

Anonymous said...

Try to understand the downfall u will face now or after ur so called ITO prom even if one gets. No PR is interested in prom which is not their due but it seems u r so eager come what may, due or not due, hook or crook want prom.

Anonymous said...

Every PR is one time DR and every DR will be one time PR. Then why you people are fighting as DR Vs PR. If DR think that they are superior and not giving respect to senior promotees, then they should ready to get the same treatment when they become ACIT by the DR IRS who will treat you less than their Chappals.

Anonymous said...

honourbale DRs please get ready to go home instead of dreaming of being Income Tax Officer.

Anonymous said...

the 2005 exam recruits have come into the dept through back door entry (appointments made are more than advertised and are liable to be quashed as per the SC order dtd. 12.2.2014), hence the ITEF should take up the cause with the CBDT for strict compliance of the 12.2.14 SC order and ask to immediately quash the illegal appointments made by the SSC/CBDT. The ITEF should insist on implementation of the Parmar case read with the SC order dtd. 12.2.14 and only after quashing the illegal appointments made.

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